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  serious question for evolutionist,

  by unstopableravens in

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  Nathan Natas

  You are watching too much TV. Try reading some real books, not "graphic novels."

  Who knows, you might find the answer to your questions.
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  Why I am upset with myself for my atheistic beliefs

  by confusedandalone in

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  yesterday me and the wife were talking about how much better life has become.

  she said something that got me thinking and made me a bit sad for a while.

  we were discussing where we are at individually in our quest for understanding about the "super-natural" and i expressed i have no belief in it at all and how much i have changed she says, "i don't think you have changed much.

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  Don't feel bad about being an atheist; that's the way the gods made us. :)
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

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  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  ...and, of course, "le pain maudit" means "Cursed Bread" in French.

  So we have seen that hallucinations are not an uncommon experience.

  How many of our society's irrational religious notions have there basis in a hallucinatory experience by a person who was charismatic, like, for example, Saul of Tarsus? ... or Roman emperor, Constantine I?
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  12 years of marriage gone to prostitute addiction

  by His Excellency in

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  http://www.recover-from-grief.com/12-years-of-marriage-gone-to-prostitute-addiction.html.

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  There are two sides to any story.

  I'm betting that "Haley Not-her-real-name" is a frigid harpy and a lousy lay who wouldn't know passion if it smacked her ass.
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  time to reboot jwn??? attn. tech49, formerlongtime elder, others.

  by nowwhat? in

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  first of all let me start by saying who am i to judge, but... i understand jwn has completely evolved over the years, but what i would like to see a forum that has current members and former jw's that still live by bible principles and respect the bible, but are not afraid to call out the watchtower on their practices and revised history.

  i think quality posters as mentioned above, after venting their frustrations and experiences realize this website is taken over by athiests.

  and punk kids-[ see similar post.

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  Ask your imaginary friend(s) to give you the site you seek.

  Oh, and STFU!
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
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  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  St George of England, might that drug have been ketamine? On the street it is known as "Special K" or "horse tranks."

  According to wikipedia, ketamine is a drug used in human and veterinary medicine, primarily for the induction and maintenance of general anesthesia. Ketamine has a wide range of effects in humans, including analgesia, anesthesia, hallucinations, elevated blood pressure, and bronchodilation. Like other drugs of its class, such as tiletamine and phencyclidine (PCP), ketamine induces a state referred to as "dissociative anesthesia" and is used as a recreational drug. Ketamine can be effective in treating depression in patients with depression and bipolar disorder who have not responded to antidepressants. It produces a rapid antidepressant effect, acting within two hours as opposed to the several weeks taken by typical antidepressants to work. Patients have reported vivid hallucinations, "going into other worlds" or "seeing God" while anesthetized, and these unwanted psychological side effects have reduced the use of ketamine in human medicine."

  I had a cat that had developed an abcessed wound as a result of a feline territorial dispute, so we took him to the veterinarian for treatment. In the vet's words, this was a cat that "escallated easily" - he was fine with my wife and I but he didn't trust strangers, and the vet was a stranger... so the vet felt justified in giving the cat ketamine to anesthetize him, making the wound treatment easier for both of them. The next morning I picked the cat up and he was just waking fron his deep sleep; in fact he had not yet regained control of his hind legs - when we got home he dragged himself around using just his forelegs, and he seemed concerned that he couldn't use his hind legs, which probably made him feel vulnerable, creating an anxiety-loop in his cat mind.

  (Reminds me of a line from Monty Python, "So I takes me cat out for a scrape 'round the block...")

  But this wasn't funny, it was clear to me that my little buddy was hallucinating, and he was TERRIFIED by whatever it was he was seeing, amplified by his anxiety. He retreated to the security of his cat-carrier and spent most of the remainder of the day in there. When his system finally purged itself of the ketamine, he returned to being his old lovable, rascally cat-self, and he never spoke to me of his experience. I, for my part, called the vet and requested that a note be added to his medical file stating that he should never be given ketamine again.

  Months later he was killed by a car; I still miss him.

  
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

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  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  Lest anyone think me a cad for being rude to a woman, permit me to explain that NewYork44M is a GUY, not a woman as his avatar suggests.

  I appreciate the many fascinating contributions to this thread, and I remembered that when I was younger I would sometimes wake up in an emotional mood - happy and expectant or really really angry - based on the events that unfolded in my dreams just prior to waking up. These weren't hallucinations, but emotional states predicated by dreams.

  When my wife was very young she often experienced NIGHT TERRORS with images that would do Alfred Hitchcock proud. She once had an open-eyed vision of gigantic bubbles slowly sliding down her bedroom wall.
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  WOW Scully, THAT is one for the X-files!

  Thanks for sharing.

  DATA-Dog, would you be willing to elaborate a bit on what your experience was like?

  Snare&Racket, I am inclined to agree that as we fall asleep auditory hallucinations are possible.
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  JeffT asked, " Are asking with or without chemical involvement?"

  Either. If you want to be judged, NewYork44M might be available.

  I'm seeking an understanding of what these experiences are like. My limited experiences were brief, but I "knew" they weren't real. The brief visual hallucination seemed semi-transparent, but more importantly, when I got to where the hallucination appeared to be, there was nothing there. The highway was a long unlighted drive with forests on both sides. I slowed down and turned the radio on REALLY LOUD. The auditory hallucination was clear as a bell ans at first seemed completely well, but it was my wife's voice I heard, and she was asleep next to me.

  Personally, I don't think that drugs are a doorway to a different reality; they're ways to screw up the signal processing of the brain. Sometimes our brains can screw up the signal processing without any help, as with fatigue or an inherited chemical imbalance, or maybe a neutrino from deep space smacks the bull's-eye on just the right neuropeptide...
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  Have you ever had a hallucination? What was it like?

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have almost never had a visual hallucination and i was wondering what they're like.

  how "real" do they seem?

  is there any kind of a hint you get that tells you they are not real?

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  NewYork44M said, " I would suggest that most hallucinations are drug induced."

  Thanks for sharing your self-righteousness with us. I would suggest that most self-righteous people are assholes.

  I have never taken drugs for entertainment purposes; I don't smoke and although I do drink alcohol, I have never been drunk.

  When you do experience a hallucination, NewYork44M, I would expect you to fail to realize it for what it is.

  You exemplify the adage, "he who speaks doesn't know."